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what's up guys ryan sprague here from

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somewhere in the skies welcome to

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another monday live stream

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where i'm going to run through some of

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the latest stories over at

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thedebrief.org the awesome news media

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website that i contribute to and we're

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going to just talk

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everything ufos some interviews that

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have made the rounds this week

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some awesome news out of the uk and

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everywhere in between

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if you don't know this website head on

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today

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stream guys i really appreciate it

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all right well let's dive in welcome

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everyone to the live stream um

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if you are watching on youtube please

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feel free to put your comments

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the right hand side if you are watching

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on facebook facebook live you'll see the

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first comment in the video is from me

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it is a link and you do have to click on

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and give streamyard permission to both

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show me your comments

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talking to me over on facebook if you

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i'm not ignoring you i'm just not

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in my main feed here so welcome everyone

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hello rodrigo um hi nathan

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the unidentified celebrity review is

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here luis thanks for joining me brother

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um we've got uh elias is here

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uh let's see let's see um feel free to

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say hi guys i'll try to shout you out as

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much as i can

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as we go on throughout the night i have

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large coffee from dunkin donuts so um

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which is a lot for us and people start

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um but i did brave it go out and get

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nice and perky for this uh conversation

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we're gonna have today

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douglas sprague is here hello for anyone

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who doesn't know doug is my

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father awesome the coolest guy i know

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he's my dad he really is hello jason

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um mozart hi welcome thanks for joining

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leslie is here finally caught a live

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stream thank you thanks for being here

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ben hey ryan me and my girlfriend love

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your podcast and love your live chats

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please can you give a shout out

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to abby abby halford what is going on

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welcome to the live stream thank you to

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both of you for your support on the

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the world to me again um i i just can't

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watching this right now and um

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and care what i have to say and listen

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um so i have to thank you all for that

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it truly means the world to me

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and um i love doing these things

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christopher what's up my man

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welcome to the uh to the live stream as

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well i love doing this

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lockdown per se so uh if this can give

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so thank you thank you to everyone for

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littleb76 hello from the uk welcome

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oh man it's got to be pretty late there

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thanks for uh staying up and joining us

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um max how's it going my man thank you

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um let's see i don't want to forget

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anyone steven hi stephen

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welcome welcome to the chat and um cool

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um the stories from the debrief this

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here from rogue planet

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tv welcome brother thanks for joining me

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i'm gonna have to get you on for the

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next one my man

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make these our weekly thing um

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christopher plane over at the debrief

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and it's called methane maybe the best

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e.t life um so what i do with these guys

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of the story and then go over to

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but i'll give you a little summaries

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here so in september of 2020 news broke

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um have life or signs of life at one

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christopher plane so go check that one

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leslie thank you for joining us so when

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leslie i guess they're not too far off

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thanks for being here gian is here hello

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audrey audrey's here i i knew i could

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are you getting blasted with snow dog

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spread guests yeah man it's still

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ufo jane welcome welcome to the chat

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um life is everywhere it seems you're so

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we're not done talking about life on

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possible other planets or

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moons ufo james so stick with me here

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which is going to be about mars hold on

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oop that's not it hold on

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i'm still getting used to this guys

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sorry for the awkward silence

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there it is all right

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so this is our next story coming out of

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um this comes from both mj banayas and

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family so welcome chrissy

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if you're watching tonight we're so

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doing a ton of really cool videos

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kind of recaps and whatnot throughout

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the week about um stories at the debrief

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she's going to be co-hosting

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a podcast that i'm going to talk about

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in a little bit as well

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um but let's check this new one out um

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four things to know about the new mars

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glerp welcome welcome to the chat um

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let's see

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so launched in july of 2020 perseverance

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is slated for a february 18th 2021

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landing in the jezreel crater that's

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a few weeks away so um we're almost

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we're almost to mars again this is going

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to be so cool so um

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perseverance will spend the next martian

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goes through the whole process of

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perseverance

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from its launch up until it gets onto

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the planet and starts collecting these

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things

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uh she did this in cooperation with nasa

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who was really nice to let

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us work with them on a cool uh youtube

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video and animation about how this is

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all gonna go down so definitely check

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out this article by mj over at

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thedebrief.org christy's video is right

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is uh embedded right in the article as

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well so this is so cool

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i i i'm so happy to see us going back to

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mars because i really think it has so

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many

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uh mysteries that have yet to be solved

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of civilizations that

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once might have been there and god

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possibly what could happen to us someday

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um that's a little depressing sorry um

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who else is here nathan nathan's in the

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house

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john welcome john thank you so much for

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showing up my man

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um all right our next story from the

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get ready for this one guys probably i'd

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say

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the best writer at the debrief um

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you know we all have our ways of writing

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and uh researching and whatnot but i'm a

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little biased

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when it comes to this uh this is by

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ryan sprague of the debrief and this is

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called

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china's seti program we'll find alien

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life first

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says chinese astronomer so this is by me

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it came out during et week um i've spent

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the last couple months putting this

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article together

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so i'm so happy that i finally was able

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to get it out to you guys

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um i spoke directly with a chinese

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scientist

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and uh a astronomer in china

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working with fast which is this um huge

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the biggest most powerful telescope

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radio telescope in the world right now

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um the only one that was bigger and more

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powerful was the arecibo

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telescope which unfortunately collapsed

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um

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gosh this past december i believe it was

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uh

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so sad so sad um but china picked up the

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reigns and now they've got the biggest

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telescope

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in the world to do everything they need

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for astronomy

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but not only that they are allowing

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scientists from all over the world to

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come to china and use

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the telescope as well um so this article

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came because

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there have been rumblings that this

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scientist

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his name is uh zhang tong ji

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and he believes that china is going to

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be the first to find alien

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um communications transmissions

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so for those who don't know seti is a

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program that has been working for

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decades to try to find

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radio signals and transmissions um

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unusual transmissions throughout the

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universe

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um to see if it's unusual enough to

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possibly be from an

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alien intelligence and um you know

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they've had their ups and downs

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throughout the years of funding and this

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and that

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but uh they're still going they're still

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super strong and they are now working in

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cooperation with scientists in china

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since they now have the most powerful

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telescope so this dude

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uh professor zhang i spoke to him and um

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let's see i'm gonna do the summary here

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zhang is a professor of cosmology

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at beijing normal university and he

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believes that china may be the first to

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find an alien transmission

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he worked very closely with seti in the

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us on how to target

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certain planets to look for

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transmissions and has been granted

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17.5 hours with the telescope

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um so that strict time limit is no joke

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i mean these tell us this telescope

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wasn't created to look for alien signals

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there's many other reasons it was

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created and um

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and searching for alien life isn't

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exactly a priority

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on any astronomers list

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in terms of like a collective endeavor

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so they said yeah

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okay yeah you can look for alien life

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but you've only got this amount of time

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so you better make the most of it so

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basically zhang worked for over a year

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with

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people at uh seti um a gentleman named

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dan wertheimer who i also interviewed

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who works for seti worked with zhang to

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um try to find the most

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um interesting places to target with

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those 17.5 hours that

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zhang has so um they worked with that

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they showed you know the

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the fast telescope operators we're going

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to do this here for this long

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here's the data that we think will

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provide the most information of that's

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why we're looking at this place

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blah blah blah so the race is on um

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is china gonna find it first are we it's

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like a new city

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cold war as it were so i think it's

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pretty cool

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it's good that they're working together

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and um that hopefully with enough

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nations now doing this maybe we'll

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finally find that transmission out there

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we've been searching for

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a la contact style i don't know but i

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was really really excited to finally get

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this one out to you guys so

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john says really sad he worked with seti

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at home for a while

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yeah i know man i know but hopefully you

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know with these new things going on in

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china

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and um in australia as well that they'll

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all work together and we'll

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we will find alien transmissions finally

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um let's see ufo jane says my son is so

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excited for perseverance landing

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he learned about it in school that's

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awesome ah that must have been so cool

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for him and for you

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as a ufo mom i can imagine um let's see

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uh nathan says awesome uh john very sad

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you know i already read those um all

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we're missing is sylvester stallone to

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make rocky part 37.

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good play my man do you think it matters

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who finds et's

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first um luis asks i haven't been

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putting these up guys i'm sorry

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um will it be as big a landing at the

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moon as you think um

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that's a good question luis i mean

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finding the first alien transmission and

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being able to like

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prove it would probably be the biggest

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discovery of all time i would say

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but there are concerns you know when we

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look at the

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sort of uh political tensions between

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china and the united states right now

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um of if they were to find it are they

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just gonna safeguard the info

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are they gonna make contact without

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telling anyone else around the world

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and chang the chinese scientists he

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confirmed to me that no that's not how

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it works

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um us in the astronomical um you know

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community and society we uh we work

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together

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and if we were to find a transmission we

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have to

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work with all of them

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because just because they find a

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transmission doesn't mean it's alien

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it could be anything so they need to get

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it peer reviewed by other countries and

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until everyone is on board

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and says yep this is an alien

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transmission and then they go from there

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so um yes i do think it'll be a huge

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discovery if china is to do it first

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but it will then become something that i

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think the whole world

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um will take part in i hope i hope

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samuel asks do aliens have music i would

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think so

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i mean alien rock um

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i don't know i wonder what kind of music

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they listen to

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alien ant farm oh that's a throwback

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shout out to all my two early 2000's uh

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let's see elias says that's what we need

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more scientific cooperation

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i completely completely agree with you

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um

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and i think we're getting that so i'm

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excited about that and

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speaking of cooperation we have other

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really cool news

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coming over at the debrief so let me

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one sec

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all right so i did make this

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announcement last week

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but we now have the first official

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episode

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of the debrief podcast um so

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this is the first episode featuring

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tessa fisher um and it the podcast is

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hosted by michael

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mataloni and soon to be chrissy newton

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as well

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and um tessa fisher is an anthro excuse

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me an astrobiologist and researcher

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using network theory to detect the

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presence of life on exoplanets

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she talks about what exoplanets are what

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network theory is

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how we search for life on these planets

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and understanding comets asteroids

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meteors

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and of course tess's thoughts on ufos

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and so much more

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in the first episode um also the audio

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podcast will launch

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february 15th of the debrief podcast

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with an exclusive interview with

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astrophysicists

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and astronomer ave um here

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is an awesome clip with michael and

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tessa talking about you guessed it

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ufos let me make sure this is working

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for you guys

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um last time i didn't have the audio on

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so i want to make sure here's a little

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tease of the first

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podcast

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the eyewitness accounts are certainly

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fascinating

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and um you know there have been attempts

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to try to treat them more scientifically

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one of the researchers i know has

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actually been advocating for

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collating you know more legitimate

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sounding uap sightings

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and then trying to see if that

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particular incident was like captured by

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satellite using like google maps

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to see if well is there anything there

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can we a you know

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validate that the eyewitness account

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happened and b

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from you know whatever imagery we do

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have what can we learn about what app

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actually happened um and this is what i

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appreciate about the

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evolution of this idea in the sciences

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that we can actually begin to talk about

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them and communicate about them in a way

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that doesn't ostracize us from the

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scientific community

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and then actually do the research and do

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the work

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that scientists that only scientists can

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do

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in order to actually begin to study

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these things in a way that is going to

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either prove or disprove or ultimately

565
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,400
at least bring enough evidence so that

566
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,840
we can statistically model things and

567
00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:15,120
make sense of it right

568
00:21:18,470 --> 00:21:17,280
exactly yeah and i think that is a good

569
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,480
shift you know i'm glad that it's being

570
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:20,000
taken a bit more seriously

571
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,679
i mean uips in some cases still can be

572
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:25,280
a bit of a french topic depending on

573
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:27,039
like how committed people are to the

574
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:28,559
idea that italians

575
00:21:32,630 --> 00:21:30,880
um but you know on the other hand there

576
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:32,640
are in some respects i don't think it's

577
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,840
too different from some of the other

578
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:35,520
searches that have been done

579
00:21:39,909 --> 00:21:38,400
looking at like um imaging data of the

580
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:39,919
moon or of mars or

581
00:21:45,510 --> 00:21:43,120
some of the asteroids looking for

582
00:21:47,029 --> 00:21:45,520
you know signs of artificial structures

583
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,039
there not because

584
00:21:50,470 --> 00:21:49,039
and there are astrobiologists and

585
00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:50,480
planetary scientists who've done that

586
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:51,840
not because they necessarily expect

587
00:21:55,510 --> 00:21:53,120
they're going to be there

588
00:21:56,710 --> 00:21:55,520
but because well we have the data we

589
00:21:58,870 --> 00:21:56,720
might as well check on

590
00:21:59,750 --> 00:21:58,880
the right very very remote chance that

591
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,760
there is something there it's

592
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,600
low-hanging fruit

593
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:03,840
[Music]

594
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:06,159
yeah so that is our first interview with

595
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:06,880
tessa

596
00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:09,760
fisher um she talks about so many other

597
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:10,400
things

598
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,159
throughout the episode so i highly

599
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:14,320
suggest you guys go check that out right

600
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:15,840
now on youtube

601
00:22:19,270 --> 00:22:18,720
uh go to the debrief media youtube

602
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,280
channel

603
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,120
we've got a ton of stuff going on there

604
00:22:25,990 --> 00:22:23,200
every day including the first

605
00:22:27,909 --> 00:22:26,000
episode with tessa um so yeah please

606
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,919
check that out and then moving

607
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:30,080
to other outlets that are doing some

608
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:31,039
awesome interviews

609
00:22:37,750 --> 00:22:34,320
we're gonna go back to mr george knapp

610
00:22:41,430 --> 00:22:37,760
over at mysterywire um

611
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,440
let's hold this up for you guys here

612
00:22:50,230 --> 00:22:44,559
can you guys hear the subway train

613
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,390
cool so this is going to be the next one

614
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:54,720
i'm talking about

615
00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:57,840
um george knapp interviewed uh david

616
00:23:01,430 --> 00:22:58,320
brown

617
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,440
author of the mission uh which has the

618
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:03,679
most ridiculously long subtitle which

619
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:04,720
i'm gonna read to you

620
00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:07,039
in a little bit here but um david

621
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:08,559
authored a new book

622
00:23:12,950 --> 00:23:11,679
called the mission and um the book talks

623
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:12,960
about why nasa

624
00:23:18,710 --> 00:23:16,080
chose europa one of jupiter's 79

625
00:23:19,190 --> 00:23:18,720
known moons to look for life as we know

626
00:23:22,470 --> 00:23:19,200
it

627
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:22,480
clipper over

628
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:25,600
a mission to mars and if you we think

629
00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,799
this was just like a couple

630
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:28,000
conversations

631
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:30,000
about oh we should go here we should do

632
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:32,159
this apparently it was a decade-long

633
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,799
battle

634
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:34,880
to get us to go to europa first and it's

635
00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:37,440
insane so what i'm gonna do is um

636
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:40,799
i'm gonna pull up the full subtitle

637
00:23:45,029 --> 00:23:43,760
um of this in just a minute but go ahead

638
00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:45,039
and watch the um

639
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:46,960
a small teaser from this interview that

640
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:05,269
pull this up give me one sec

641
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:12,310
uh in total though europa is only the

642
00:24:15,669 --> 00:24:12,960
size of

643
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:15,679
our moon there's three times more water

644
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:17,120
on europa

645
00:24:20,710 --> 00:24:18,559
than there is on the planet earth and

646
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,720
this is liquid salt water

647
00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:22,159
the same kind of stuff that's in our

648
00:24:26,310 --> 00:24:24,640
ocean so the

649
00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:26,320
the cool thing about europa or the

650
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:28,559
important reason that we need to explore

651
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:30,960
it is because

652
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:33,600
in addition to having water it also has

653
00:24:36,390 --> 00:24:35,360
uh hydrothermal vents at the bottom of

654
00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:36,400
that ocean

655
00:24:42,870 --> 00:24:40,000
and so that's providing an energy source

656
00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,880
and you also have water touching rock

657
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:44,400
sort of the ocean floor

658
00:24:47,750 --> 00:24:46,559
it touches a a rock mantle and that's

659
00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:47,760
where you get chemistry

660
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:50,240
so when you get water chemistry and

661
00:24:52,549 --> 00:24:51,120
energy

662
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:52,559
you have the ingredients that you need

663
00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:53,919
for life and there's one more great

664
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:56,159
thing about europa

665
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,279
it's had time in other words

666
00:25:03,510 --> 00:25:01,679
biologists believe that it takes more

667
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,520
than just those ingredients to make life

668
00:25:06,789 --> 00:25:05,200
you also need a long period of time

669
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:06,799
sort of bake in the oven in this case

670
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:14,710
yeah so i would have to agree i think

671
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:16,320
europa is probably the place we should

672
00:25:20,789 --> 00:25:17,679
be looking for life

673
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,799
and i know people um even tessa is

674
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:23,039
looking at this as a astrobiologist as

675
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,480
well of europa

676
00:25:27,990 --> 00:25:26,960
being one of the prime places to look

677
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,000
for alien life so

678
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:30,320
that's pretty cool um i pulled up a few

679
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:32,080
recommendations on what kind of

680
00:25:36,470 --> 00:25:34,400
music aliens listen to doug sprough says

681
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,480
steve miller space cowboy

682
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:38,000
that would make sense that would

683
00:25:42,390 --> 00:25:39,919
definitely make sense uh john

684
00:25:45,269 --> 00:25:42,400
says surfing with the alien what did

685
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:45,279
nathan say i saw him say something too

686
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:48,640
uh i think it was led zeppelin something

687
00:25:53,190 --> 00:25:52,400
um let's see i don't want to forget

688
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:53,200
anything

689
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:55,120
oh christopher black is mentioning the

690
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,960
la ufo photo so

691
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,720
some of you guys may have seen this

692
00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:00,720
making the rounds i think tmz was the

693
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:01,600
first to

694
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:03,919
break the story which kind of kind of

695
00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:05,120
gives me pause

696
00:26:08,549 --> 00:26:07,760
but um of this ufo that uh someone

697
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,559
captured

698
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,159
now i've heard two explanations for it

699
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:12,240
so far another one is alien i'm sorry

700
00:26:15,430 --> 00:26:14,080
uh the first is it was the separation of

701
00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:15,440
a rocket from a shuttle

702
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:17,840
from spacex which seems to be the most

703
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,440
viable explanation

704
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,520
um this happens to be the case a lot of

705
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:23,520
the times and if you see this photo

706
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:26,799
la photo tmz just google it um it looks

707
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:27,760
like the plume

708
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:30,480
sort of rocket propulsion that would be

709
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,360
behind

710
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:33,760
the uh the rocket so um it's either that

711
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:34,880
or someone else mentioned

712
00:26:38,310 --> 00:26:37,679
it's the reflection of a speedometer in

713
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,320
a car

714
00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:40,240
and it's reflecting off the windshield

715
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:42,000
and someone did like a side by side

716
00:26:45,190 --> 00:26:42,880
comparison

717
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:45,200
and i have to say both answers are

718
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:46,720
compelling and it's probably one of

719
00:26:49,510 --> 00:26:47,440
those two

720
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:49,520
so sorry to break any hearts but i'm not

721
00:26:52,390 --> 00:26:50,880
the be all end all and neither are the

722
00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:52,400
people who came up with these

723
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,320
explanations so just look it up and

724
00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:55,840
decide for yourself

725
00:27:02,390 --> 00:26:59,039
um i did want to share the uh

726
00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:02,400
the full subtitle of david's book here

727
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:06,720
um before we go any further

728
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:09,919
to kind of give you an idea of um

729
00:27:16,470 --> 00:27:13,440
this mission to uh europa the mission

730
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:16,480
or quote how would despite that how a

731
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:18,320
disciple of carl sagan

732
00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:21,200
an ex-motocross racer a texas tea party

733
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,000
congressman

734
00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:24,320
the world's worst typewriter saleswoman

735
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:25,919
california mountain people

736
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:29,120
and an anonymous nasa functionary went

737
00:27:32,710 --> 00:27:29,760
to war

738
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:32,720
with mars survived an insurgency at

739
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:33,360
saturn

740
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:36,080
traded blows with washington and stole a

741
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:36,640
ride

742
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:38,960
on an alabama moon rocket to send a

743
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:40,640
space robot to jupiter

744
00:27:45,029 --> 00:27:43,039
in search for the second garden of eden

745
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:45,039
at the bottom of an alien ocean

746
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:48,480
inside of an ice world called europa

747
00:27:54,389 --> 00:27:52,080
a true story i can't even imagine what

748
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:54,399
this book entails i can't wait to read

749
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:54,799
it

750
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,360
and i'm hoping to have david on the show

751
00:28:01,029 --> 00:27:58,640
to talk all about it

752
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:01,039
very soon so go check out the book the

753
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:02,720
mission and um

754
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,159
let me know what you guys think

755
00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:06,399
especially with that subtitle

756
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:08,640
that's pretty crazy um let me check

757
00:28:12,149 --> 00:28:10,000
these comments

758
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:12,159
uh nathan says send a camera down to

759
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:14,000
europa

760
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,080
and see what licks the camera that's

761
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,240
that is the best scientific uh endeavor

762
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,600
i think we could do

763
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:22,000
um john's asking where everyone's from

764
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:23,200
please feel free to put

765
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:24,880
your answers in the chat guys i'd be

766
00:28:28,070 --> 00:28:26,640
really curious as well

767
00:28:30,470 --> 00:28:28,080
john you're from rochester that's

768
00:28:31,669 --> 00:28:30,480
awesome brother syracuse new york right

769
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,679
here

770
00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:33,120
although i've been living in queens for

771
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:35,360
about 10 years now with a breeston in

772
00:28:40,230 --> 00:28:36,640
l.a

773
00:28:43,590 --> 00:28:40,240
um let's see true okie from

774
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,600
muskokee says nathan

775
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:45,840
um cool so all right what do we got

776
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:48,480
coming up next for you guys oh

777
00:28:52,310 --> 00:28:51,360
we got another fun interview to share

778
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:52,320
with you guys

779
00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:54,399
this one comes from our good friend

780
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:55,520
george knapp

781
00:28:59,190 --> 00:28:58,399
over at mysterywire and it's a

782
00:29:01,590 --> 00:28:59,200
continuance

783
00:29:02,389 --> 00:29:01,600
of his interviews with robert bigelow

784
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,399
the um

785
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:04,720
eccentric millionaire who pumped

786
00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,720
millions of dollars into investigating

787
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:07,919
ufos

788
00:29:12,549 --> 00:29:10,720
and skinwalker ranch and consciousness

789
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:12,559
he's got a new company that's

790
00:29:19,110 --> 00:29:15,919
um looking into the afterlife um called

791
00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:19,120
bix uh bigelow something that

792
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,360
i don't even remember what it was uh but

793
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:24,159
just type in bigelopdix you'll find it

794
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,279
um but so

795
00:29:30,549 --> 00:29:29,840
for those of you in the ufo sphere

796
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,559
community

797
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:31,760
and i know there's probably some of you

798
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:33,600
watching who aren't a part of this every

799
00:29:36,149 --> 00:29:34,080
day

800
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,159
like a lot of us are um there is a

801
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:37,760
highly controversial character in the

802
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:38,720
ufo field

803
00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:41,919
named bob lazar and this gentleman is

804
00:29:45,269 --> 00:29:43,600
kind of the reason we know anything

805
00:29:47,110 --> 00:29:45,279
about area 51.

806
00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:47,120
uh back in the 80s he came forward and

807
00:29:52,710 --> 00:29:49,360
said that he worked at area 51

808
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:52,720
that um there were nine flying saucers

809
00:29:57,190 --> 00:29:54,799
in the possession of the space that he

810
00:29:59,269 --> 00:29:57,200
worked on trying to reverse engineer the

811
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:59,279
technology to see how it works

812
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:02,320
um he was shown photos of aliens and and

813
00:30:07,350 --> 00:30:04,720
all of this all this crazy

814
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,360
sensational stuff and the story broke by

815
00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:09,120
george knapp back in the 80s

816
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:12,320
and it just went crazy um you know

817
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:15,120
people are very torn on if it's true or

818
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:15,600
not

819
00:30:21,269 --> 00:30:19,520
lazar is kind of the reason any of us

820
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:21,279
know about area 51.

821
00:30:25,430 --> 00:30:24,960
so um kind of a i guess addendum to all

822
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,440
this

823
00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:27,200
bob bigelow the millionaire back when he

824
00:30:30,310 --> 00:30:29,039
was you know investigating ufos and

825
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:30,320
doing all that

826
00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:33,440
he got into a business with bob lazar

827
00:30:37,669 --> 00:30:36,399
to um work on stuff um you know highly

828
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:37,679
technological stuff

829
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,840
that may or may not have had to do with

830
00:30:44,149 --> 00:30:41,600
ufos or

831
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:44,159
possible materials from wreckage stuff

832
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:44,880
like that

833
00:30:49,190 --> 00:30:48,000
um and within like a couple months of

834
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:49,200
getting into business

835
00:30:52,630 --> 00:30:51,440
with bob lazar um he just cut all ties

836
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,640
with him and that was it

837
00:30:57,750 --> 00:30:55,600
so for decades people thought oh bigelow

838
00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:57,760
no longer believes this guy's for real

839
00:31:01,110 --> 00:31:00,640
um he took me for a ride this that this

840
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:01,120
that

841
00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:04,159
so george knapp you know asked him like

842
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,440
all these years later this is what the

843
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,600
public thinks you think of bob lazar

844
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:09,200
what are your actual thoughts about him

845
00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:10,640
so i'm going to play

846
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:12,720
a brief clip from that interview right

847
00:31:16,870 --> 00:31:14,559
now and kind of give you

848
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:16,880
um my personal thoughts on where the

849
00:31:20,470 --> 00:31:18,000
whole bob lazar thing

850
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:20,480
stands for me personally as many of you

851
00:31:23,029 --> 00:31:21,279
know i have been

852
00:31:25,990 --> 00:31:23,039
kind of an advocate for the bob lazar

853
00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:26,000
story for many years i did promote it on

854
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,440
my television show

855
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:30,000
mysteries decoded that i co-host with

856
00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:31,279
jennifer marshall

857
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:34,320
saying that i believe bob um but yeah

858
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,919
let's let's watch this interview first

859
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:37,519
and come around on the other side

860
00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:39,200
and see where i stand and i want to know

861
00:31:43,029 --> 00:31:40,720
where you guys stand on the whole

862
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:43,039
bob lazar thing as well so let's go

863
00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:59,669
here it is

864
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:02,789
and uh so i wouldn't say that that

865
00:32:08,549 --> 00:32:06,799
um that he had not experienced

866
00:32:09,909 --> 00:32:08,559
a lot of the things he claims that he

867
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:09,919
has you think he did

868
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:12,159
i think the odds i would look at in

869
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:14,080
terms of odds this is las vegas right

870
00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:17,840
so i would say the odds are bob lazar

871
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:20,720
has for the most part on everything he

872
00:32:24,070 --> 00:32:21,679
has said

873
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:24,080
it has been telling the truth those are

874
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:24,880
the odds

875
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:26,480
and i would say if you're betting

876
00:32:30,149 --> 00:32:28,399
against that you're betting against

877
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:30,159
substantial odds

878
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:32,000
and that the chances are you're going to

879
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:33,200
lose

880
00:32:37,190 --> 00:32:35,360
if you if you think that he's been lying

881
00:32:38,789 --> 00:32:37,200
the chances are you're going to lose

882
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:38,799
you went into business to build a

883
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:41,120
certain device he set him up in a small

884
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:41,519
lab

885
00:32:45,509 --> 00:32:44,159
to see how he did and then you split

886
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:45,519
after a while you split up

887
00:32:48,870 --> 00:32:47,120
yeah a lot of stories told about that

888
00:32:51,509 --> 00:32:48,880
yeah what's the bottom line for you

889
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:51,519
i had a gal working for me that would

890
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:52,480
check up on him

891
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:56,320
and uh and i was out of town at the time

892
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,000
and uh she says and so i said okay uh

893
00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:02,159
what what's going on in the lab and she

894
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:03,840
said well i'm really sorry to tell you

895
00:33:06,950 --> 00:33:06,000
it's being used as a as a little

896
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:06,960
warehouse for

897
00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:09,919
for furniture you know and i thought oh

898
00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:10,559
geez

899
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:13,519
okay that's i i can see i see the signs

900
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,480
now okay that

901
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:16,159
that's the end of it but he just wasn't

902
00:33:19,750 --> 00:33:17,600
doing what he said he would do

903
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:19,760
correct correct so that sounds very

904
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:21,200
bob-like yeah it was

905
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,279
it was a storehouse you know warehouse

906
00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:24,880
for him because he had this furniture

907
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:26,960
and no place to put it i guess

908
00:33:38,070 --> 00:33:35,590
so yeah um

909
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:38,080
i don't know i i was kind of really

910
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,760
interested in hearing what bob bigelow

911
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,279
had to say about lazar

912
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:43,200
but i kind of came out on the other side

913
00:33:47,909 --> 00:33:44,640
not feeling

914
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:47,919
any different except for

915
00:33:54,789 --> 00:33:51,440
more doubt about it um

916
00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:54,799
the fact that bigelow had paid for this

917
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,440
you know place for him to do experiments

918
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,880
and do this new business they were

919
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:00,159
working on together

920
00:34:04,870 --> 00:34:03,440
and to go around bigelow's back and use

921
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:04,880
this place to store

922
00:34:12,069 --> 00:34:09,040
furniture um is highly deceptive

923
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,079
and um just bad

924
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:14,159
i mean how do you do that how do you use

925
00:34:16,629 --> 00:34:15,440
the trust of someone who's giving you

926
00:34:18,149 --> 00:34:16,639
money to do something

927
00:34:19,990 --> 00:34:18,159
and you're going beyond their back and

928
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,000
using it to store

929
00:34:23,030 --> 00:34:22,000
furniture that just blows my mind and i

930
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:23,040
mean you look at

931
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,800
lazar or excuse me you look at bob

932
00:34:28,230 --> 00:34:26,560
bigelow and george knapp and they're

933
00:34:31,349 --> 00:34:28,240
kind of laughing like oh that's

934
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:31,359
that's lazar he's he's an eccentric guy

935
00:34:35,510 --> 00:34:33,679
but um to me it just kind of speaks

936
00:34:37,349 --> 00:34:35,520
volumes of um

937
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:37,359
kind of the deceptive nature of bob

938
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,720
lazar and

939
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:40,399
more that's come to light that i've

940
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:43,200
uncovered with fellow journalists and

941
00:34:48,389 --> 00:34:45,919
researchers of um him being less than

942
00:34:52,230 --> 00:34:48,399
honest about a lot of things that he

943
00:34:53,829 --> 00:34:52,240
worked on and did and um i don't know

944
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,839
what do you guys think put it in the

945
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:55,040
comments i want to know what you think

946
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:56,240
about bob lazar

947
00:34:59,349 --> 00:34:58,079
because i have defended this guy for

948
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,359
years and years

949
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,599
um as many of you know i am good friends

950
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,960
with jeremy corbell

951
00:35:06,069 --> 00:35:05,119
the filmmaker who made the film all

952
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:06,079
about bob and

953
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,160
um you know nothing against jeremy i

954
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:10,720
think he's a great filmmaker but

955
00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:14,000
i i'm believing bob less and less as the

956
00:35:18,069 --> 00:35:15,200
days go on

957
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:18,079
and um i just i hate to say that but

958
00:35:21,670 --> 00:35:18,880
it's true

959
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:21,680
i i just don't i'm not buying into it

960
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,480
anymore

961
00:35:25,990 --> 00:35:24,960
i mean if he had this element 115 he

962
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:26,000
claims is what

963
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:29,359
um powered these ufos and he had it in

964
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,480
his possession

965
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:32,400
and it's buried somewhere deep in the

966
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,760
desert dude

967
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,079
like we could use that now more than

968
00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:38,320
ever no matter what it does or what it's

969
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:38,880
for

970
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:40,960
i'm sure it could benefit humanity

971
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,240
somehow yet

972
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:44,880
you're just keeping it buried somewhere

973
00:35:47,349 --> 00:35:45,599
um

974
00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:47,359
i i don't get it it just doesn't make

975
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:48,720
any sense to me

976
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,920
so um yeah let's see that was messed up

977
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:53,680
he was making room for a strip club

978
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:54,640
christopher says

979
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,720
that's very possible very very possible

980
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:00,880
john says i want to believe me too man

981
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,480
but i don't know

982
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:04,240
um louis says it doesn't make him look

983
00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:05,680
good exactly

984
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,440
it kind of makes me think less of

985
00:36:11,510 --> 00:36:09,119
bigelow too i mean

986
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,520
he's clearly not that good of a um a

987
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:13,119
judge of character

988
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,240
of you know that he would like pump this

989
00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:18,240
dude full with money to do something and

990
00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:18,800
then

991
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,920
not even really um make sure he's doing

992
00:36:24,069 --> 00:36:23,359
what he's supposed to be doing i don't

993
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:24,079
know

994
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:28,800
about the warehouse story yeah

995
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:31,920
um yeah yeah while bob slipped away from

996
00:36:36,630 --> 00:36:34,079
ryan nathan says

997
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:36,640
i i'm coming out on the other side man

998
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:37,920
i'm like

999
00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,079
i don't know i'm maybe like

1000
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:45,599
um 30 believe and the rest

1001
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:47,200
not believe at this point what would

1002
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:48,800
that be

1003
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:53,599
uh 50 50 60 70 no so i can't add 70

1004
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:57,599
30 70 um at this point randy says agreed

1005
00:37:01,109 --> 00:36:59,200
i thought that little bit was weird too

1006
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:01,119
it made him um

1007
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:04,079
made me more skeptical as well exactly

1008
00:37:07,589 --> 00:37:06,000
uh john says our relationship with bob

1009
00:37:07,990 --> 00:37:07,599
is complicated but he's further the

1010
00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:08,000
cause

1011
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:11,200
in some ways yeah i mean he's gotten the

1012
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,240
story out there about area 51 and stuff

1013
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:15,680
but there have been many employees who

1014
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,160
worked at area 51 who've come forward

1015
00:37:22,550 --> 00:37:21,040
at this point and have not told stories

1016
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:22,560
anything like what bob

1017
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,400
zara claims so i don't know i i believe

1018
00:37:30,230 --> 00:37:29,280
bob lazar did something out there i

1019
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:30,240
believe he

1020
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:34,000
went out to s4 and um

1021
00:37:37,670 --> 00:37:36,800
maybe worked there under contract for a

1022
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:37,680
little bit

1023
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,240
but all this stuff about nine fine

1024
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:42,640
saucers and reverse engineering

1025
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:44,720
this that this that i just don't know i

1026
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:46,000
mean if the

1027
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:48,560
evidence was there bring it forward and

1028
00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:49,599
bring it forward

1029
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:52,720
so there's no um debate anymore but

1030
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:54,480
that's just not happening

1031
00:38:00,790 --> 00:37:57,760
and it's just never gonna happen

1032
00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:00,800
um i was into the film about halfway and

1033
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:02,240
then i started to research couldn't go

1034
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:04,640
back and finish just don't believe him

1035
00:38:10,230 --> 00:38:07,280
yeah i think a lot of people feel the

1036
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:12,950
i'm skeptical says audrey i'll stay

1037
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,960
entertained

1038
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,320
and the hand scanner from close

1039
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,720
encounters yeah that was another one

1040
00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,560
um he claimed that there were these hand

1041
00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:22,320
scanners that you would use to get into

1042
00:38:25,990 --> 00:38:22,960
the uh

1043
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:26,000
s4 facility um and

1044
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:29,040
supposedly he'd talked about this prior

1045
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:30,560
to the movie close encounters

1046
00:38:34,390 --> 00:38:33,280
coming out where the same exact hand

1047
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,400
scanner was

1048
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,560
seen in that movie so a lot of people

1049
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:37,760
think oh

1050
00:38:41,750 --> 00:38:40,160
well spielberg got that idea because he

1051
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,760
knew about these hand scanners

1052
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:43,680
and put him in the movie later on but

1053
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:45,440
then there's all these weird time things

1054
00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:45,839
where

1055
00:38:49,589 --> 00:38:47,440
it's possible lazar could have seen the

1056
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,599
movie and then came forward with that

1057
00:38:54,230 --> 00:38:52,560
so it's just a mess it's a mess and i

1058
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:54,240
think this interview with bigelow didn't

1059
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:54,800
help

1060
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,440
at all it only made me more skeptical

1061
00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:59,359
and i've been on bob was our side for a

1062
00:39:02,069 --> 00:39:00,480
while so

1063
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:02,079
it's unfortunate and it's nothing

1064
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:04,240
against you know george knapp or jeremy

1065
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:05,040
corbell

1066
00:39:10,069 --> 00:39:08,079
or even bob lazar but um look if this

1067
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:10,079
guy is feeding us lies then we don't

1068
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,160
need that we don't have time for it

1069
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,680
in the world anymore we got to move

1070
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,599
forward with this topic of ufos

1071
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:17,440
in the most credible light that we can

1072
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,119
so um yeah

1073
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:21,280
i'm kind of leaving the whole bob lazar

1074
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,160
thing

1075
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,400
to the side putting it back on the shelf

1076
00:39:28,150 --> 00:39:25,839
in my gray basket

1077
00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:28,160
and i'm less of a believer now than ever

1078
00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:29,119
before

1079
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:31,119
um so i guess thanks bob bigelow for

1080
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:33,520
that i don't know

1081
00:39:41,670 --> 00:39:40,069
ryan uh christopher says do you believe

1082
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:41,680
that david adair story if you know what

1083
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:43,440
i'm talking about i don't know chris

1084
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:45,040
i'm not familiar with that story you'll

1085
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:47,839
have to enlighten me

1086
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:51,200
um let's see what else let's move on

1087
00:39:54,710 --> 00:39:51,760
guys

1088
00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:54,720
to a happier story this one is really

1089
00:39:57,030 --> 00:39:55,280
cool

1090
00:39:59,910 --> 00:39:57,040
so let me go ahead and pull this up for

1091
00:40:01,829 --> 00:39:59,920
you guys before i forget

1092
00:40:03,109 --> 00:40:01,839
and thank you for bearing with me with

1093
00:40:05,589 --> 00:40:03,119
these share screens

1094
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:05,599
i swear i'll get it down better as time

1095
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:06,960
goes on

1096
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:10,000
i promise

1097
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:17,109
all right so this story is coming to us

1098
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,160
from the uk

1099
00:40:22,309 --> 00:40:20,800
with a lot of our fellow colleagues and

1100
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:22,319
ufo researchers

1101
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:26,240
podcasters out there um and um

1102
00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:27,920
let's just let's run through this this

1103
00:40:32,630 --> 00:40:30,000
is uap media uk

1104
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:32,640
launches this is a new website by andy

1105
00:40:36,470 --> 00:40:33,520
mcgrillen

1106
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:36,480
dan zetterstrom adam goldsack and david

1107
00:40:40,390 --> 00:40:37,119
partridge

1108
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:40,400
all out of the uk uap media uk formed

1109
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,680
late in 2020

1110
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:43,359
and their goal of the group is to

1111
00:40:48,630 --> 00:40:45,440
promote a change in the conversation

1112
00:40:50,870 --> 00:40:48,640
around uap in the uk which shows little

1113
00:40:53,109 --> 00:40:50,880
to no appetite to discuss the topic

1114
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,119
seriously providing resource for the

1115
00:40:57,190 --> 00:40:55,280
public to contact local politicians

1116
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,200
and the media to reach out for serious

1117
00:41:01,349 --> 00:40:59,359
comments and opinions

1118
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,359
their goal is to provide information

1119
00:41:05,670 --> 00:41:03,040
context and resources

1120
00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:05,680
to the uk media and others to approach

1121
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:06,640
the debate on

1122
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:09,359
objects of unknown origin bringing the

1123
00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,520
conversation to the public's attention

1124
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:13,520
as it is being done around the world

1125
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,440
particularly in the united states

1126
00:41:18,870 --> 00:41:17,359
we aim to not only remove the public

1127
00:41:21,270 --> 00:41:18,880
stigma surrounding the topic

1128
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:21,280
but to minimize the unverifiable science

1129
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,400
fiction approach

1130
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,880
that has so often pervaded the uk

1131
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:26,640
broadcast and print media

1132
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:28,400
there's a template letter on their

1133
00:41:31,829 --> 00:41:30,079
website for you to fill out

1134
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,839
names and dates and send it off to

1135
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,599
members of parliament

1136
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:35,760
which is so cool i spent all of last

1137
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:36,960
week um

1138
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:40,000
emailing all my uh congressmen and

1139
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,839
senators here in new york

1140
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:43,920
um to do the same thing so it's so cool

1141
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:45,520
to see that they now are doing it

1142
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:47,359
over in the uk as well and you don't

1143
00:41:49,750 --> 00:41:48,400
even have to write the letter they've

1144
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,760
got the whole thing

1145
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:51,200
filled out for you you just got to put

1146
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,680
your name in their name in the date

1147
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:55,760
and send those babies off so this is so

1148
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:58,079
cool there's also some awesome articles

1149
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,240
over at uap media uk

1150
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:02,079
um that are already up there including

1151
00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,240
an interview with luis elizondo

1152
00:42:07,589 --> 00:42:06,000
the former head of the secret pentagon

1153
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:07,599
ufo program

1154
00:42:10,950 --> 00:42:09,520
and uh the uh let's see what else do

1155
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:10,960
they have over there

1156
00:42:15,190 --> 00:42:13,760
um yeah they're just killing it this is

1157
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:15,200
such a cool endeavor

1158
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:17,839
by these four guys over there in the uk

1159
00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:18,240
um

1160
00:42:23,109 --> 00:42:21,359
andy is the host of that ufo podcast

1161
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:23,119
and i know these guys have been working

1162
00:42:26,710 --> 00:42:25,280
really hard on getting this thing going

1163
00:42:28,710 --> 00:42:26,720
to talk to members of parliament over

1164
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:28,720
there about the uap issue

1165
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:31,200
and andy actually just dropped within

1166
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:32,800
the last couple hours

1167
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,680
a awesome interview with luis elizondo

1168
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:37,200
so i highly suggest

1169
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:39,119
everyone go subscribe to that ufo

1170
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:40,880
podcast and check out his

1171
00:42:44,309 --> 00:42:43,040
his interview um a ton of listener

1172
00:42:45,990 --> 00:42:44,319
questions were answered

1173
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,000
they talked about stuff that lou hasn't

1174
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,000
talked about on any other shows

1175
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:50,319
so please go check out what andy's doing

1176
00:42:55,190 --> 00:42:52,480
over there and please check out uap

1177
00:42:55,990 --> 00:42:55,200
media uk there's their social handles

1178
00:42:59,750 --> 00:42:56,000
right there

1179
00:43:01,510 --> 00:42:59,760
their website is uh uap media dot

1180
00:43:02,790 --> 00:43:01,520
uk and check out everything they got

1181
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:02,800
going on over there

1182
00:43:07,030 --> 00:43:04,560
so exciting that everyone's getting

1183
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:07,040
involved with this topic and advocating

1184
00:43:10,790 --> 00:43:08,960
so um yeah cheers to these four

1185
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:10,800
gentlemen and what they're doing

1186
00:43:15,910 --> 00:43:14,319
i love it um let's see sam hello

1187
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,920
thank you thank you so much brother i

1188
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:18,160
appreciate you staying that saying that

1189
00:43:25,030 --> 00:43:22,000
um like lou said to the stars academy

1190
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:25,040
is an entertainment group elias says um

1191
00:43:28,550 --> 00:43:26,160
yeah yeah it is

1192
00:43:30,390 --> 00:43:28,560
it's become more entertainment than um

1193
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,400
scientific endeavor right now

1194
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:32,400
so that's why some of the members have

1195
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:33,599
left uh

1196
00:43:38,470 --> 00:43:36,400
to pursue other ways of getting the

1197
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,480
government involved in this topic and

1198
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:40,319
a transparency with the public like

1199
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:41,520
never before

1200
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,560
so uh yeah um you know tom delong is

1201
00:43:47,430 --> 00:43:46,079
gonna do his thing and the rest of these

1202
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,440
guys are gonna do theirs

1203
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:48,880
and uh hopefully we'll all meet in the

1204
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:50,880
middle and finally find answers

1205
00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:54,000
to everything um let's see

1206
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:57,359
andrew hall adds david partridge also

1207
00:44:01,750 --> 00:43:59,200
publishes shadows of your mind

1208
00:44:02,870 --> 00:44:01,760
magazine an excellent zine andrew thanks

1209
00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:02,880
for bringing that up my man

1210
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:05,040
david is one of the members of uap media

1211
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:06,960
uk and

1212
00:44:11,750 --> 00:44:09,280
oh my god if you guys want to read a

1213
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:11,760
digital magazine that's put together

1214
00:44:16,069 --> 00:44:15,200
more professional than most mainstream

1215
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,079
magazines

1216
00:44:19,589 --> 00:44:18,640
this dude does everything himself from

1217
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:19,599
the layout

1218
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:21,839
to the interviews to the text to the

1219
00:44:25,270 --> 00:44:22,720
design

1220
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:25,280
everything he does by himself it is a

1221
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:26,400
labor of love

1222
00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:29,520
it's free and i just i commend this guy

1223
00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:30,960
for the passion he has

1224
00:44:35,109 --> 00:44:34,000
for this topic and it shows it shows in

1225
00:44:37,349 --> 00:44:35,119
what he brings forward

1226
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:37,359
in shadows of your mind magazine so

1227
00:44:39,589 --> 00:44:38,240
check that out

1228
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,599
just google shadows of your mind

1229
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,599
magazine and there's many issues out

1230
00:44:44,710 --> 00:44:43,280
there right now that you can check out

1231
00:44:47,190 --> 00:44:44,720
with all different types of stories

1232
00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:47,200
about ufos and paranormal so

1233
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:49,440
um yeah showing a lot of love on this

1234
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,240
episode

1235
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,839
tonight for a lot of people doing

1236
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,280
amazing work um

1237
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:55,599
so please go check out everything

1238
00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:56,720
they're doing

1239
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,880
and other than that guys um if you want

1240
00:45:03,270 --> 00:45:00,720
to throw any questions

1241
00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:03,280
in the chat i'd be happy to answer them

1242
00:45:05,750 --> 00:45:04,079
um

1243
00:45:07,109 --> 00:45:05,760
or i'm just gonna give you the lowdown

1244
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,119
on what's to come

1245
00:45:13,510 --> 00:45:10,319
on somewhere in the skies in

1246
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:16,550
but before i do that join my patreon

1247
00:45:20,230 --> 00:45:17,359
please

1248
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:20,240
um yeah so for those of you who don't

1249
00:45:25,990 --> 00:45:22,000
know i do do a patreon

1250
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:26,000
campaign um where i do bonus episodes

1251
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:28,880
bonus content early editions of podcast

1252
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:31,599
episodes one-on-one conversations with

1253
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:32,560
me

1254
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:34,480
whether through zoom or skype or what

1255
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:36,000
have you um you can

1256
00:45:39,349 --> 00:45:37,760
be my guest on the show or pick the

1257
00:45:41,190 --> 00:45:39,359
topics i talk about

1258
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:41,200
for all different tiered levels of

1259
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,480
contributions

1260
00:45:46,069 --> 00:45:45,200
and like i always say the podcast is

1261
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,079
free to consume

1262
00:45:50,710 --> 00:45:47,920
but it's not free to create there's so

1263
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,720
many hidden costs with doing a podcast

1264
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,560
i don't even want to begin to tell you

1265
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:54,960
but um if any of you

1266
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:56,800
watching this right now are patreon

1267
00:46:00,950 --> 00:45:58,720
subscribers thank you so much for your

1268
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:00,960
constant support if you're interested in

1269
00:46:05,270 --> 00:46:02,720
becoming a member there's the

1270
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:05,280
the link right there on that uh ticker

1271
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:06,079
in the video

1272
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:09,200
patreon.com somewhere skies and i'm

1273
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:11,359
always looking for new

1274
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:13,760
ways to give back to you guys um for

1275
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:15,280
your contributions and helping the show

1276
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,160
continue

1277
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:18,640
so please reach out to me on social

1278
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:19,599
networks

1279
00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,480
um on twitter we're at summer skies on

1280
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:24,800
instagram we're at summerskiespod

1281
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,720
give me recommendations things you think

1282
00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:28,640
would be cool to bring up on the show

1283
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:31,200
guests i should have um there's a

1284
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:32,079
contact tab

1285
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,640
on the website where you can submit your

1286
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,240
own ufo stories

1287
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,480
uh to the show in a series i call

1288
00:46:42,550 --> 00:46:40,000
witness accounts where you

1289
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,560
you tell your story as raw as you want

1290
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:44,319
as real as you want as long as you want

1291
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:45,440
as short as you want

1292
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,680
doesn't really matter um but i love to

1293
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,079
hear the stories in your own words

1294
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,839
and share them with the public which

1295
00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:54,240
normalizes this topic and shows everyone

1296
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:56,480
it's okay to talk about ufos we're not

1297
00:46:59,109 --> 00:46:58,560
the freaking weirdos and tinfoil hats

1298
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:59,119
anymore

1299
00:47:02,790 --> 00:47:00,960
some of us are and there's a lot of them

1300
00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:02,800
out there but for the most part

1301
00:47:07,270 --> 00:47:05,280
we're perfectly sane people who are

1302
00:47:08,710 --> 00:47:07,280
interested in the mysteries in our skies

1303
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:08,720
so please join us

1304
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:11,760
on that journey um let me answer some

1305
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:13,119
questions here

1306
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,839
nathan says do you think lou believes in

1307
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,839
roswell

1308
00:47:23,190 --> 00:47:20,880
i know lou believes it as well

1309
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:23,200
um whether on the record or off the

1310
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,280
record uh luis elizondo has stated to

1311
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:29,839
several media outlets that he firmly

1312
00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:31,440
believes the government is in possession

1313
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,480
of wreckage

1314
00:47:36,549 --> 00:47:35,280
from downed ufos whatever that term may

1315
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:36,559
mean to him

1316
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:40,319
um and he has stated as such that it

1317
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,520
came from certain crashes um

1318
00:47:47,829 --> 00:47:45,920
one of which i believe is roswell i hope

1319
00:47:50,150 --> 00:47:47,839
i'm not connecting the dots to

1320
00:47:52,390 --> 00:47:50,160
uh recklessly there but i do think lou

1321
00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:52,400
does believe that one of these wreckages

1322
00:47:56,390 --> 00:47:53,680
some of these materials

1323
00:47:58,950 --> 00:47:56,400
did come from roswell nathan i i firmly

1324
00:48:00,710 --> 00:47:58,960
believe that

1325
00:48:02,950 --> 00:48:00,720
christopher asks when does the second

1326
00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:02,960
season of mysteries decoded come out

1327
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:06,720
good question my man um so

1328
00:48:10,230 --> 00:48:07,680
i don't even know if it's been

1329
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:10,240
officially announced but um there is

1330
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:12,000
going to be a second season of mysteries

1331
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:12,880
decoded

1332
00:48:16,390 --> 00:48:14,559
i don't want to get in trouble by really

1333
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,400
saying anything else

1334
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:18,400
about it but rest assured there is a

1335
00:48:22,870 --> 00:48:19,760
second season

1336
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:22,880
coming um we were filming

1337
00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:25,599
right when the pandemic hit so it really

1338
00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:27,839
depends on how much we can get done with

1339
00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,559
that

1340
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:31,200
um i'm only involved with one episode

1341
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,160
this season

1342
00:48:35,670 --> 00:48:34,720
as far as i know um but it's gonna be an

1343
00:48:38,230 --> 00:48:35,680
awesome one

1344
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:38,240
so everything else is um jennifer

1345
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:38,960
marshall

1346
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:41,040
the main host of the show she's out

1347
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:42,240
there kicking butt

1348
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:45,119
investigating ghosts and monsters and

1349
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:47,440
and aliens and everything in between

1350
00:48:51,109 --> 00:48:50,240
um so special shout out to jennifer if

1351
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:51,119
she happens

1352
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:54,079
to catch this um yeah send her some love

1353
00:48:58,630 --> 00:48:55,200
guys over on

1354
00:49:01,109 --> 00:48:58,640
on twitter she's on there as well um

1355
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:01,119
mysteries decoded to the cw let them

1356
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:02,480
know you want more

1357
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:05,200
and um just be rest assured second

1358
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,240
season is coming

1359
00:49:10,710 --> 00:49:08,640
and i'm so excited uh to share with you

1360
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,720
what we got going on with our ufo

1361
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:12,400
investigation there so

1362
00:49:19,510 --> 00:49:16,559
yeah thanks for asking that my man

1363
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:19,520
um fun size phil i love that name it

1364
00:49:23,829 --> 00:49:21,520
asks what's your thoughts on rental shum

1365
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,839
uh so for anyone who doesn't know my

1366
00:49:27,990 --> 00:49:25,920
first kind of dive into the rental from

1367
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,000
forest ufo event of 1980

1368
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:30,880
was um as a playwright i am a playwright

1369
00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:32,800
in new york city that's uh one of the

1370
00:49:39,109 --> 00:49:35,839
passions i've always had and that i do

1371
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:39,119
here in the city um and i was writing a

1372
00:49:41,109 --> 00:49:40,480
play about the rendersham forest

1373
00:49:43,190 --> 00:49:41,119
incident

1374
00:49:44,470 --> 00:49:43,200
uh working very closely with my mentor

1375
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:44,480
peter robbins

1376
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:46,960
who is a ufo researcher and also a

1377
00:49:51,109 --> 00:49:48,240
theater advocate

1378
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:51,119
as well here in the city we meet once a

1379
00:49:54,870 --> 00:49:52,960
month you know pre-pandemic

1380
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,880
uh to talk all about theater and new

1381
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,480
york and ufos

1382
00:50:00,390 --> 00:49:58,640
and we started forming a play together

1383
00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:00,400
um you know since then the render

1384
00:50:05,910 --> 00:50:03,040
showcase has taken on so many different

1385
00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,920
um explanations and journeys that the

1386
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,760
play is kind of on hold right now while

1387
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:09,680
i try to gather my bearings

1388
00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:12,720
and um find a way to focus it

1389
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:14,960
so yeah rest assured you haven't heard

1390
00:50:19,430 --> 00:50:17,520
the the end of rendelsham by any means

1391
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:19,440
whether from me or other people

1392
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:23,040
but um my thoughts on it it happened

1393
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:26,240
um tons of military personnel witnessed

1394
00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:28,720
something land in the forest in 1980

1395
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:31,440
in rendelsham in england and uh it was

1396
00:50:34,549 --> 00:50:32,400
covered up

1397
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,559
and uh what it was i couldn't tell you

1398
00:50:39,190 --> 00:50:36,160
everything from a ufo

1399
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:39,200
to just the light of a lighthouse to

1400
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,240
um uh what what what did nick

1401
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,920
redfearn bring forward he was on the

1402
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,760
show talking about it holograms

1403
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,280
these were holograms and part of some

1404
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,119
weird mk ultra thing

1405
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:50,880
um so i don't know i don't know what

1406
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,800
rendersham was all i know is it was

1407
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:54,800
something big enough to cover it up

1408
00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:56,400
and um i think we're only starting to

1409
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:57,920
scratch the surface

1410
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,760
of what it could be so yeah stay tuned

1411
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:01,440
for a lot more about randall shum

1412
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,960
for sure audrey says great show ryan

1413
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,640
love these weekly recaps thank you

1414
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:08,720
audrey thanks for being here

1415
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:12,720
um nope nathan you were right my man you

1416
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:16,710
christopher black says interview chris

1417
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:18,720
bledsoe or his son ryan

1418
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:20,480
i'm not familiar with chris bledsoe's

1419
00:51:22,710 --> 00:51:22,319
story at all a lot of people have said i

1420
00:51:25,829 --> 00:51:22,720
should

1421
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:25,839
reach out to him um i i don't even know

1422
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:27,680
what happened to the dude i just i've

1423
00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:28,880
never gotten around to

1424
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:31,280
hearing his story i hear he's a nice guy

1425
00:51:34,549 --> 00:51:31,920
um

1426
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:34,559
he's got a crazy story to tell so i'm

1427
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:36,240
gonna look into it and yeah maybe we

1428
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,280
will have chris

1429
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,079
bledsoe on the show in the future john

1430
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:41,839
says i just watched signs again last

1431
00:51:44,390 --> 00:51:43,680
night great movie complete with tinfoil

1432
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:44,400
hat scene

1433
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:46,160
dude that's one of my favorite movies i

1434
00:51:50,630 --> 00:51:48,000
love signs i think it's one of

1435
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:50,640
shyamalan's best movies which isn't hard

1436
00:51:52,870 --> 00:51:52,160
to do because there's only a few that

1437
00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:52,880
are

1438
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:55,760
kind of good um and science is

1439
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,880
definitely one of them

1440
00:52:00,470 --> 00:51:58,880
i hear his new television series is

1441
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:00,480
pretty good on apple tv

1442
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,760
i don't know if anyone in the chat has

1443
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:03,119
seen it but let me know your thoughts if

1444
00:52:06,630 --> 00:52:04,240
you do watch it

1445
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:06,640
i'm watching hannibal right now i don't

1446
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:09,040
know how i slept on the show for so long

1447
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:10,880
but it's good it's good i didn't know

1448
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:12,319
lawrence fishburne was in it either

1449
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:15,599
he's awesome um so yeah i'm on the

1450
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:18,079
season finale of the first season of

1451
00:52:22,150 --> 00:52:20,079
hannibal i'm gonna finish it tonight

1452
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:22,160
so once i get off here i'm going

1453
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:23,200
straight for

1454
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,119
amazon prime and watching the finale so

1455
00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,599
i can't wait for that

1456
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:30,240
guys i'm so sorry if i'm missing any of

1457
00:52:33,030 --> 00:52:31,520
your your things here

1458
00:52:34,790 --> 00:52:33,040
there's a lot of people here and i

1459
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:34,800
really appreciate that

1460
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:38,160
rodrigo how's it going my man

1461
00:52:45,190 --> 00:52:42,480
um let's see oh leslie says i love

1462
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:45,200
the artwork behind you the ufo would

1463
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:46,319
burn very awesome

1464
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:49,280
thank you that was a either birthday or

1465
00:52:52,309 --> 00:52:51,280
christmas present for my amazing

1466
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:52,319
girlfriend

1467
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:55,359
um that she got for me i love it it's so

1468
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:55,839
cool

1469
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:57,760
i'll try to find out where she got it i

1470
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:59,200
think it might have been like etsy or

1471
00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,480
something um

1472
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:02,960
but then you'll also notice this little

1473
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:04,240
lovely number this

1474
00:53:10,710 --> 00:53:07,839
this poster behind me um so

1475
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:10,720
i'm gonna be doing one of the coolest

1476
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,800
regional episodes of summer in the skies

1477
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:14,079
in a couple weeks

1478
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,119
all about puerto rico um i kind of broke

1479
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:19,359
this news on instagram

1480
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:21,680
broke the news like it's some big thing

1481
00:53:26,309 --> 00:53:22,480
um

1482
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,319
doing an awesome episode all about the

1483
00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:28,079
mysteries of puerto rico they are a

1484
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:28,960
plenty

1485
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:31,760
everything from ufos chupacabras and and

1486
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:33,839
ghosts and lost civilizations

1487
00:53:40,549 --> 00:53:37,760
um i've got a someone who uh was born

1488
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,559
and raised on puerto rico um coming on

1489
00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,240
the show to talk about growing up there

1490
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:44,160
the legends and things that she

1491
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:46,800
discovered i've got some exclusive audio

1492
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:47,839
content from

1493
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:50,800
a ufo researcher out of puerto rico and

1494
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:51,200
um

1495
00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:54,720
just crazy crazy stories i'm so happy

1496
00:53:58,710 --> 00:53:56,160
um it's gonna be part of our audio

1497
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:58,720
documentary series um where i go

1498
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:01,599
deep deep into certain things so be on

1499
00:54:03,670 --> 00:54:02,960
the lookout for that in the very near

1500
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:03,680
future

1501
00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:05,839
i can't wait to share that with you guys

1502
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:07,119
um

1503
00:54:11,109 --> 00:54:09,520
elias says love pr lived there for one

1504
00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,119
year oh that's cool

1505
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:13,200
let me know elias if you've heard any

1506
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:14,800
interesting stories there

1507
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:17,359
especially from the rainforest uh i hear

1508
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:19,040
there's a lot that goes on there

1509
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:22,079
um let's see

1510
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:24,880
i think that's about it here guys other

1511
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:25,760
than that i

1512
00:54:28,950 --> 00:54:27,920
released a new episode of the podcast

1513
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:28,960
this morning

1514
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:32,000
with ben hansen former fbi agent turned

1515
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,480
paranormal and ufo investigator

1516
00:54:39,190 --> 00:54:36,880
and uh we talked all about his brand new

1517
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:39,200
discovery plush television show

1518
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:42,799
ufo witness where he and uh and uh mark

1519
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:44,880
o'connell who wrote the biography on j

1520
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:47,359
ellen heineck they reopened the project

1521
00:54:51,589 --> 00:54:48,720
blue book files

1522
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:51,599
to try to connect them to cases from

1523
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:52,319
today

1524
00:54:55,589 --> 00:54:54,720
to try to explain them so it's a really

1525
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:55,599
cool show

1526
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:57,599
we talked for over an hour all about the

1527
00:55:01,990 --> 00:54:58,880
investigations

1528
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:02,000
ben's thoughts on um alien abductions

1529
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:05,440
and uh and you know the idea of the

1530
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,240
paranormal

1531
00:55:10,549 --> 00:55:08,799
and ufos being somehow connected we

1532
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:10,559
really got deep it was a really fun

1533
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,599
conversation

1534
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:13,440
you can watch the full video interview

1535
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:15,839
with ben hansen over at the ryan sprague

1536
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,920
youtube channel or you can listen to the

1537
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:19,599
audio podcast wherever you get your

1538
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:20,880
podcasts

1539
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:24,400
um let's get a few final questions in

1540
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,599
here guys

1541
00:55:29,349 --> 00:55:27,920
um fun size phil says any plans for more

1542
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:29,359
witness accounts if someone disguises

1543
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,400
always great to hear

1544
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,880
absolutely man um so i put out a call

1545
00:55:37,109 --> 00:55:34,319
for submissions like

1546
00:55:38,549 --> 00:55:37,119
a few weeks ago um and i released a

1547
00:55:40,549 --> 00:55:38,559
witness accounts episode

1548
00:55:42,789 --> 00:55:40,559
but i had so many more than i've ever

1549
00:55:44,710 --> 00:55:42,799
had before so i had to break them up so

1550
00:55:46,789 --> 00:55:44,720
if you submitted a story to me

1551
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,799
and it wasn't in the last episode rest

1552
00:55:50,789 --> 00:55:48,160
assured it will be

1553
00:55:53,349 --> 00:55:50,799
i've got like two more episodes lined up

1554
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:53,359
of witness accounts with amazing stories

1555
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:55,599
from all of you from all over the world

1556
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:57,520
who have witnessed ufos so i'm super

1557
00:56:02,470 --> 00:55:58,799
excited about that

1558
00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:02,480
um let's see let's see

1559
00:56:08,710 --> 00:56:06,799
i think that's gonna cover it guys um

1560
00:56:10,309 --> 00:56:08,720
yeah stay tuned for more episodes of the

1561
00:56:11,829 --> 00:56:10,319
show we've got t crewless

1562
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:11,839
coming on the show talking all about

1563
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:13,520
conspiracy theories

1564
00:56:17,589 --> 00:56:15,359
and the danger that they bring to the

1565
00:56:20,549 --> 00:56:17,599
world especially right now in america

1566
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:20,559
that's coming up um this upcoming monday

1567
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:22,880
finally we're releasing our episode with

1568
00:56:28,549 --> 00:56:26,000
zelia edgar who is a paranormal and ufo

1569
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,559
researcher um that was a really fun one

1570
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:30,720
where we got deep into high strangeness

1571
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:33,760
and jacques valet john keel stuff so be

1572
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:34,640
on the lookout

1573
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:38,480
puerto rico episode

1574
00:56:42,630 --> 00:56:40,720
um and other than that check out the

1575
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,640
patreon at the link below

1576
00:56:46,309 --> 00:56:44,640
um go to the website somewhere in the

1577
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:46,319
skies dot com for

1578
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:49,359
for articles and and stuff like that um

1579
00:56:52,950 --> 00:56:51,200
my merch store everything is on sale

1580
00:56:55,829 --> 00:56:52,960
right now so just go over to t

1581
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:55,839
public and search for uh somewhere in

1582
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:57,040
the sky store

1583
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:59,760
um everything is on sale right now um

1584
00:57:01,910 --> 00:57:00,400
and

1585
00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:01,920
other than that check out everything

1586
00:57:08,069 --> 00:57:05,760
going on over at thedebrief.org

1587
00:57:09,030 --> 00:57:08,079
and guys thank you thank you so much for

1588
00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:09,040
joining me

1589
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,920
um let's see what we got here jason says

1590
00:57:14,549 --> 00:57:13,920
great episode this morning so good thank

1591
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:14,559
you

1592
00:57:26,950 --> 00:57:25,760
um elias is talking more about stuff in

1593
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:26,960
puerto rico so

1594
00:57:30,309 --> 00:57:28,880
i'm gonna hit you up elias for some more

1595
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:30,319
stories but

1596
00:57:33,670 --> 00:57:32,000
thank you everyone for joining me

1597
00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:33,680
tonight i am losing my voice

1598
00:57:38,230 --> 00:57:36,480
i'm gonna go watch hannibal go spend

1599
00:57:40,309 --> 00:57:38,240
some time with your loved ones your

1600
00:57:42,309 --> 00:57:40,319
friends your family um

1601
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:42,319
be thankful we're all still here we're

1602
00:57:46,069 --> 00:57:43,440
still alive

1603
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:46,079
and uh we will get through this together

1604
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,599
i love all of you guys

1605
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:49,839
thank you for your constant support um

1606
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:51,119
tell someone

1607
00:57:54,710 --> 00:57:52,960
you know that you're thinking about them

1608
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:54,720
it truly can change

1609
00:57:59,030 --> 00:57:57,760
their day hello to my family hello to

1610
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,040
everyone out there

1611
00:58:02,390 --> 00:58:01,280
have a great night and uh we'll talk

1612
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:02,400
soon all right

1613
00:58:06,150 --> 00:58:04,400
take care keep your feet on the ground